MONDAY
OCTOBER 06, 2008
The Governing Body of the City of Pratt met in Recessed session in the Commission Room located in City Hall.
PRESENT: Eric Nystrom Mayor
Glenna Borho Commissioner
Jeff Taylor Commissioner
Bill Hlavachick Commissioner
Willy Peltier Commissioner
ALSO PRESENT: Dave Howard City Manager
LuAnn Kramer City Clerk
Ken Van Blaricum City Attorney
Sherry Kruse County Clerk
Charles Rinke County Commissioner
Joe Reynolds County Commissioner
Dwight Adams County Commissioner
Gordon Stull County Counselor
CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Nystrom called the recessed meeting to order. The Mayor instructed the Clerk to note that all Commissioners were present.
BUSINESS:
DISCUSSION ON HEIGHT RESTRICTION IN CITY AND COUNTY PERTAINING TO THE AIRPORT:
Mr. Reid Bell, Airport Manager, informed the Commissions that the Pratt Airport was rated as Regional, which was just under a Commercial rating. Mr. Bell explained that to have a Commercial rating you have to have longer runways and that they had been rated as Business until runway construction upgraded them to the Regional rating. Mr. Bell commented that the Pratt Airport was one of twenty airports that have the type of runway lights that use a beacon type light. Commissioner Borho questioned how many airports were rated as Regional. Mr. Bell stated that Goodland and Pratt were the current ones and that Oberlin had been but was dropped back to business due to lack of upgrades. Mr. Bell stated that an entity of Chicago was looking in our area and if wind generators were in that area, we would lose approaches and lose funding. Commissioner Borho questioned how many miles of clearance you need. Mr. Bell answered that it currently was 34 to 1, but he would want it 50 to 1. Commissioner Peltier asked about height restrictions. Mr. Bell stated that there were different criteria and that they do not want anything encroaching the air space. Commissioner Taylor commented that it was worth protecting to keep the Regional status and any funding available. Mr. Bell commented that microwave towers and wind generators can go up anywhere due to lack of zoning in the County. Commissioner Taylor questioned if the 3-mile area was as close as we could go for zoning issues. Counselor Gordon Stull stated that the zoning statute states that the entity within has the jurisdiction and the City is the only one that has that authority. Mr. Bell commented that he has nothing against wind generators, but that he does not want the adverse effect that they could cause. Commissioner Taylor commented that they have nothing in place to prevent someone from putting up something that would affect it later. Mr. Bell stated that if we do not protect the airspace, we have to pay back everything and that is considered a breach of contract for the grant. Mr. Stull commented that this statute had been in existence since 1947 and has never been challenged. Mr. Bell stated that they are making airports accountable and if wind generators go up, they punish the airport in that they are ineligible for any grant funds. City Manager Dave Howard commented that we need to see what they are talking about and how it is extended by a 3-D drawing. Mr. Howard added that if you plant a tree you would have to get a permit and you cannot regulate that in the County. Mr. Howard stated that the City does not issue permits in the County and even though the City has jurisdiction, no one in the County has to come in the City for a permit and we would not know if there is anything being built or put up. Mr. Howard continued stating that if we found out after the fact, then the City would have to have them tear it down and that he did not disagree with doing an ordinance, but that we have to make it useful to us. City Attorney Ken Van Blaricum commented that this was a model ordinance and we could work with it. Mr. Howard stated that the City taking over building permits in the County or zoning in the County was a deeper discussion and there would be a lot of ramifications. Mr. Bell commented that in Grant County any new proposed construction became a joint effort and those permits would have to cross the Airport manager’s desk. Mr. Howard repeated that there was no zoning in the County so there were no permits issued. Mr. Bell answered that the City has the authority to implement the zoning in their air space. Commissioner Reynolds commented that land owners want the towers to come in here. Mr. Bell stated that we just needed to review it. Mr. Stull commented that an Airport zoning commission could be established and it could involve the City zoning board and the Airport Authority. Commissioner Peltier commented that in all reality a tower could pop up before we have time to put this in place. Commissioner Borho questioned if what we have now was okay for the Regional status. Mr. Bell stated that we want to protect that status, but if someone came in and put something up, it would ruin the whole thing. Mr. Stull commented that we should be able to come to an agreement without zoning. Mr. Howard commented that it would be a good idea to get the City’s planning and zoning board and the Airport board together. Mr. Howard stated that all of the land owners would have to be notified and we would need to know how to explain this to them. Mr. Howard commented that he would visit with the planning commission at their next meeting.
COMMENTS FROM PARKWOOD VILLAGE:
Ms. Kelly Thomas informed the Commissioners that Reflections had been in business for two years and that the floor plan was very open and there were a lot of happy families. Ms. Thomas stated that in the past six months several of their residents at Parkwood had declined and needed more attention, so they were able to be moved to Reflections if their family was agreeable. Ms. Thomas commented that they are able to stay in Reflections until time for a nursing home. Ms. Thomas informed the Commissioners that if a spouse is having surgery at the hospital, they can stay at Parkwood for $30 a day with meals and this was an effort to try and reach out to see what needs they can assist with. Commissioner Peltier asked how you can utilize that if it is late at night. Ms. Thomas stated that someone is available 24/7 and that she would be glad to put some information at the hospital.
DISCUSSION ON PRAIRIE STAR HEALTH ISSUE:
Commissioner Reynolds stated that the doctors were not agreeable with the Prairie Star issue. Commissioner Adams stated that the County was looking at expanding the Health Department for people who cannot get medical care. Commissioner Borho commented that she was concerned with the financial questions they could not answer at the meeting she had attended. Commissioner Adams commented that private pay does not always mean Medicare or Blue Cross Blue Shield. Commissioner Reynolds noted that it would be better pay for Medicare and Medicaid. Commissioner Peltier stated that private pay is deceptive and that most do not have any means to pay for medical bills. Mr. Howard asked if emergency rooms were being used by people who cannot pay. Commissioner Peltier stated that you get a mix. Mr. Howard questioned if Commissioner Peltier sees that as a problem. Commissioner Peltier stated that private pays are not going to pay anyone and that Medicaid used to pay $55 per visit no matter what the reason was. Commissioner Reynolds commented that the hospital has to write so much off, because they are losing money. Commissioner Adams commented that there are similar problems with the Health Department and this program was to work with the Health Department and that the County Commission did not go out looking for this, that they had come to them. Commissioner Taylor questioned if the County owned all four floors at the hospital. Commissioner Adams stated that they did and that this program would be in another location. Mayor Nystrom asked where the other facility would be located. Commissioner Adams stated that it would be on the corner of Highway 54 and Howard Street and that it would be somewhat storm proof and house an ambulance and rescue vehicle.
NO SMOKING BAN:
Commissioner Reynolds asked if the City had thought about a no smoking ban in public places. Commissioner Rinke stated that Legends and the Pizza Hut were already non-smoking. Commissioner Adams added that Woody’s was also. Mayor Nystrom stated that the Club D’Est wants us to take the responsibility of making them go smoke free. Mr. Stull commented that if New York did it, everyone should be able to do it. Mr. Van Blaricum commented that it had been discussed that PCC go to a non-smoking campus. Commissioner Peltier commented that the hospital did that and that it was unenforceable outside. Commissioner Hlavachick commented that the businesses should handle it and leave the Commission out of it.
NEXT MEETING:
The County Commissioners left the meeting at 1:25 p.m., but discussed the next meeting date being set for February 02, 2009 at City Hall.
DISCUSSION ON HOUSING DEVELOPMENT:
City Manager Dave Howard commented to the Commission that he would like to know what everyone thinks about the future housing development with everything that has happened in the last few weeks. Commissioner Taylor stated that the Southern Baptist Church was concerned because they had wanted to purchase land from Blake Himmelwright for some time to expand the church and they wondered how we would feel about them purchasing part of that land. Commissioner Taylor added that the church did not want to get land locked and that Reverend Fleener would be at the meeting tonight to discuss the purchase of 2.4 acres west of the church. Commissioner Borho asked why they had not thought of this before. Commissioner Taylor stated that they did not think there was a big rush. Mr. Howard commented that the church was an issue, but the bigger issue was if we were going to do it. Commissioner Borho commented that we had been discussing this for many months before the crash on Wall Street and we should purchase the land for the extension of Maple Street and let the development come later. Commissioner Taylor commented that he was getting cold feet not because of the economy of Pratt, but of the nation. Commissioner Taylor added that if oil and grain go down it could hurt our economy. Commissioner Taylor questioned the property behind Wal-Mart and developing it. Mr. Howard stated that it would have to be annexed, zoned and replated and it would make an ideal place with Wal-Mart and the ball park right there. Commissioner Peltier stated that the land was not a location that was appropriate for housing and that the land in Pratt was full. Commissioner Hlavachick commented that South Central Foundation had commented that they are looking for low to medium housing and this development was at the top. Commissioner Peltier commented that the cheapest entry level house could not be built for less than $150,000 and these would not be entry level homes. Mayor Nystrom commented that it was phenomenal what was happening in town. Mayor Nystrom stated that we should purchase the land and identify it to a realtor. Mr. Howard stated that we should purchase the land and develop Maple Street and see what happens.
Mr. Howard commented that we were getting a new motel and that they had closed on the property south of Comfort Suites. Mr. Howard stated that if we buy the land and develop the street, then we could start engineering and evaluate the economy in the meantime. Commissioner Taylor stated that it might be wise to do a survey. Mr. Howard commented that we could get an article in the paper and have people let us know what they think. Mr. Howard stated that Maple Street should be a separate project and that, while we are engineering Maple Street, we could tie in the other piece of road and if the economy goes bad, we can do the development 20 years down the road. Commissioner Peltier stated that he disagreed and that you do not want to go 20 years without development in Pratt. Commissioner Taylor stated that we should do Maple Street and then when people drive by that area, they may see that that would be a nice place to build. Commissioner Taylor added that purchasing the land does not obligate us to develop it.
Mr. Howard showed the Commission the land that the church was interested in and commented that we were being asked to make a decision before we know what we are doing. Mayor Nystrom commented that it should go on an agenda since we are dealing with taxpayer’s money and we do not want any surprises. Commissioner Taylor questioned doing a revised agenda for tonight’s meeting to discuss the purchase of the property from Himmelwright Trust and Pratt Well Service. Mr. Howard stated that we should give the people notice by publishing it in the paper and then have it on an agenda. Mayor Nystrom stated that the Commissioners are in agreement that Mr. Howard had their permission to get options on the land.
ADJOURN:
A motion by Commissioner Borho to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hlavachick and carried unanimously.
_______________________________________
ERIC NYSTROM, Mayor
(SEAL)
ATTEST:
______________________________________
LUANN KRAMER, City Clerk
**Change on page 3, by motion, to omit that Woody’s was also a non-smoking establishment.
OCTOBER 06, 2008
The Governing Body of the City of Pratt met in Recessed session in the Commission Room located in City Hall.
PRESENT: Eric Nystrom Mayor
Glenna Borho Commissioner
Jeff Taylor Commissioner
Bill Hlavachick Commissioner
Willy Peltier Commissioner
ALSO PRESENT: Dave Howard City Manager
LuAnn Kramer City Clerk
Ken Van Blaricum City Attorney
Sherry Kruse County Clerk
Charles Rinke County Commissioner
Joe Reynolds County Commissioner
Dwight Adams County Commissioner
Gordon Stull County Counselor
CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Nystrom called the recessed meeting to order. The Mayor instructed the Clerk to note that all Commissioners were present.
BUSINESS:
DISCUSSION ON HEIGHT RESTRICTION IN CITY AND COUNTY PERTAINING TO THE AIRPORT:
Mr. Reid Bell, Airport Manager, informed the Commissions that the Pratt Airport was rated as Regional, which was just under a Commercial rating. Mr. Bell explained that to have a Commercial rating you have to have longer runways and that they had been rated as Business until runway construction upgraded them to the Regional rating. Mr. Bell commented that the Pratt Airport was one of twenty airports that have the type of runway lights that use a beacon type light. Commissioner Borho questioned how many airports were rated as Regional. Mr. Bell stated that Goodland and Pratt were the current ones and that Oberlin had been but was dropped back to business due to lack of upgrades. Mr. Bell stated that an entity of Chicago was looking in our area and if wind generators were in that area, we would lose approaches and lose funding. Commissioner Borho questioned how many miles of clearance you need. Mr. Bell answered that it currently was 34 to 1, but he would want it 50 to 1. Commissioner Peltier asked about height restrictions. Mr. Bell stated that there were different criteria and that they do not want anything encroaching the air space. Commissioner Taylor commented that it was worth protecting to keep the Regional status and any funding available. Mr. Bell commented that microwave towers and wind generators can go up anywhere due to lack of zoning in the County. Commissioner Taylor questioned if the 3-mile area was as close as we could go for zoning issues. Counselor Gordon Stull stated that the zoning statute states that the entity within has the jurisdiction and the City is the only one that has that authority. Mr. Bell commented that he has nothing against wind generators, but that he does not want the adverse effect that they could cause. Commissioner Taylor commented that they have nothing in place to prevent someone from putting up something that would affect it later. Mr. Bell stated that if we do not protect the airspace, we have to pay back everything and that is considered a breach of contract for the grant. Mr. Stull commented that this statute had been in existence since 1947 and has never been challenged. Mr. Bell stated that they are making airports accountable and if wind generators go up, they punish the airport in that they are ineligible for any grant funds. City Manager Dave Howard commented that we need to see what they are talking about and how it is extended by a 3-D drawing. Mr. Howard added that if you plant a tree you would have to get a permit and you cannot regulate that in the County. Mr. Howard stated that the City does not issue permits in the County and even though the City has jurisdiction, no one in the County has to come in the City for a permit and we would not know if there is anything being built or put up. Mr. Howard continued stating that if we found out after the fact, then the City would have to have them tear it down and that he did not disagree with doing an ordinance, but that we have to make it useful to us. City Attorney Ken Van Blaricum commented that this was a model ordinance and we could work with it. Mr. Howard stated that the City taking over building permits in the County or zoning in the County was a deeper discussion and there would be a lot of ramifications. Mr. Bell commented that in Grant County any new proposed construction became a joint effort and those permits would have to cross the Airport manager’s desk. Mr. Howard repeated that there was no zoning in the County so there were no permits issued. Mr. Bell answered that the City has the authority to implement the zoning in their air space. Commissioner Reynolds commented that land owners want the towers to come in here. Mr. Bell stated that we just needed to review it. Mr. Stull commented that an Airport zoning commission could be established and it could involve the City zoning board and the Airport Authority. Commissioner Peltier commented that in all reality a tower could pop up before we have time to put this in place. Commissioner Borho questioned if what we have now was okay for the Regional status. Mr. Bell stated that we want to protect that status, but if someone came in and put something up, it would ruin the whole thing. Mr. Stull commented that we should be able to come to an agreement without zoning. Mr. Howard commented that it would be a good idea to get the City’s planning and zoning board and the Airport board together. Mr. Howard stated that all of the land owners would have to be notified and we would need to know how to explain this to them. Mr. Howard commented that he would visit with the planning commission at their next meeting.
COMMENTS FROM PARKWOOD VILLAGE:
Ms. Kelly Thomas informed the Commissioners that Reflections had been in business for two years and that the floor plan was very open and there were a lot of happy families. Ms. Thomas stated that in the past six months several of their residents at Parkwood had declined and needed more attention, so they were able to be moved to Reflections if their family was agreeable. Ms. Thomas commented that they are able to stay in Reflections until time for a nursing home. Ms. Thomas informed the Commissioners that if a spouse is having surgery at the hospital, they can stay at Parkwood for $30 a day with meals and this was an effort to try and reach out to see what needs they can assist with. Commissioner Peltier asked how you can utilize that if it is late at night. Ms. Thomas stated that someone is available 24/7 and that she would be glad to put some information at the hospital.
DISCUSSION ON PRAIRIE STAR HEALTH ISSUE:
Commissioner Reynolds stated that the doctors were not agreeable with the Prairie Star issue. Commissioner Adams stated that the County was looking at expanding the Health Department for people who cannot get medical care. Commissioner Borho commented that she was concerned with the financial questions they could not answer at the meeting she had attended. Commissioner Adams commented that private pay does not always mean Medicare or Blue Cross Blue Shield. Commissioner Reynolds noted that it would be better pay for Medicare and Medicaid. Commissioner Peltier stated that private pay is deceptive and that most do not have any means to pay for medical bills. Mr. Howard asked if emergency rooms were being used by people who cannot pay. Commissioner Peltier stated that you get a mix. Mr. Howard questioned if Commissioner Peltier sees that as a problem. Commissioner Peltier stated that private pays are not going to pay anyone and that Medicaid used to pay $55 per visit no matter what the reason was. Commissioner Reynolds commented that the hospital has to write so much off, because they are losing money. Commissioner Adams commented that there are similar problems with the Health Department and this program was to work with the Health Department and that the County Commission did not go out looking for this, that they had come to them. Commissioner Taylor questioned if the County owned all four floors at the hospital. Commissioner Adams stated that they did and that this program would be in another location. Mayor Nystrom asked where the other facility would be located. Commissioner Adams stated that it would be on the corner of Highway 54 and Howard Street and that it would be somewhat storm proof and house an ambulance and rescue vehicle.
NO SMOKING BAN:
Commissioner Reynolds asked if the City had thought about a no smoking ban in public places. Commissioner Rinke stated that Legends and the Pizza Hut were already non-smoking. Commissioner Adams added that Woody’s was also. Mayor Nystrom stated that the Club D’Est wants us to take the responsibility of making them go smoke free. Mr. Stull commented that if New York did it, everyone should be able to do it. Mr. Van Blaricum commented that it had been discussed that PCC go to a non-smoking campus. Commissioner Peltier commented that the hospital did that and that it was unenforceable outside. Commissioner Hlavachick commented that the businesses should handle it and leave the Commission out of it.
NEXT MEETING:
The County Commissioners left the meeting at 1:25 p.m., but discussed the next meeting date being set for February 02, 2009 at City Hall.
DISCUSSION ON HOUSING DEVELOPMENT:
City Manager Dave Howard commented to the Commission that he would like to know what everyone thinks about the future housing development with everything that has happened in the last few weeks. Commissioner Taylor stated that the Southern Baptist Church was concerned because they had wanted to purchase land from Blake Himmelwright for some time to expand the church and they wondered how we would feel about them purchasing part of that land. Commissioner Taylor added that the church did not want to get land locked and that Reverend Fleener would be at the meeting tonight to discuss the purchase of 2.4 acres west of the church. Commissioner Borho asked why they had not thought of this before. Commissioner Taylor stated that they did not think there was a big rush. Mr. Howard commented that the church was an issue, but the bigger issue was if we were going to do it. Commissioner Borho commented that we had been discussing this for many months before the crash on Wall Street and we should purchase the land for the extension of Maple Street and let the development come later. Commissioner Taylor commented that he was getting cold feet not because of the economy of Pratt, but of the nation. Commissioner Taylor added that if oil and grain go down it could hurt our economy. Commissioner Taylor questioned the property behind Wal-Mart and developing it. Mr. Howard stated that it would have to be annexed, zoned and replated and it would make an ideal place with Wal-Mart and the ball park right there. Commissioner Peltier stated that the land was not a location that was appropriate for housing and that the land in Pratt was full. Commissioner Hlavachick commented that South Central Foundation had commented that they are looking for low to medium housing and this development was at the top. Commissioner Peltier commented that the cheapest entry level house could not be built for less than $150,000 and these would not be entry level homes. Mayor Nystrom commented that it was phenomenal what was happening in town. Mayor Nystrom stated that we should purchase the land and identify it to a realtor. Mr. Howard stated that we should purchase the land and develop Maple Street and see what happens.
Mr. Howard commented that we were getting a new motel and that they had closed on the property south of Comfort Suites. Mr. Howard stated that if we buy the land and develop the street, then we could start engineering and evaluate the economy in the meantime. Commissioner Taylor stated that it might be wise to do a survey. Mr. Howard commented that we could get an article in the paper and have people let us know what they think. Mr. Howard stated that Maple Street should be a separate project and that, while we are engineering Maple Street, we could tie in the other piece of road and if the economy goes bad, we can do the development 20 years down the road. Commissioner Peltier stated that he disagreed and that you do not want to go 20 years without development in Pratt. Commissioner Taylor stated that we should do Maple Street and then when people drive by that area, they may see that that would be a nice place to build. Commissioner Taylor added that purchasing the land does not obligate us to develop it.
Mr. Howard showed the Commission the land that the church was interested in and commented that we were being asked to make a decision before we know what we are doing. Mayor Nystrom commented that it should go on an agenda since we are dealing with taxpayer’s money and we do not want any surprises. Commissioner Taylor questioned doing a revised agenda for tonight’s meeting to discuss the purchase of the property from Himmelwright Trust and Pratt Well Service. Mr. Howard stated that we should give the people notice by publishing it in the paper and then have it on an agenda. Mayor Nystrom stated that the Commissioners are in agreement that Mr. Howard had their permission to get options on the land.
ADJOURN:
A motion by Commissioner Borho to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hlavachick and carried unanimously.
_______________________________________
ERIC NYSTROM, Mayor
(SEAL)
ATTEST:
______________________________________
LUANN KRAMER, City Clerk
**Change on page 3, by motion, to omit that Woody’s was also a non-smoking establishment.